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Discussion for Today
[edit]- This page is transcluded from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025_January_7
January 7
[edit]NEW NOMINATIONS
[edit]Category:1488 establishments in Spain
[edit]- Propose merging Category:1488 establishments in Spain to Category:1480s establishments in Spain
- Propose merging Category:1487 establishments in Spain to Category:1480s establishments in Spain
- Propose merging Category:1481 establishments in Spain to Category:1480s establishments in Spain
- Propose merging Category:1480 establishments in Spain to Category:1480s establishments in Spain
- Nominator's rationale: There are very few entries in the per-year categories, and not all exists. Consolidate with decade for easier navigation. -- Beland (talk) 08:51, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Extinctions since 1500
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Extinctions since 1500 to Category:Holoceen extinctions
- Nominator's rationale: merge, the year 1500 is an arbitrary cutoff. If there is no opposition I will add the subcategories to the nomination for renaming from "since 1500" to "Holoceen". Marcocapelle (talk) 08:28, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Latvian Figure Skating Championships
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: This category contains only one article. Bgsu98 (Talk) 04:33, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Support in principle, this is not helpful for navigation, but merge to Category:National championships in Latvia. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:13, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Support I have added the missing category per above. SFB 10:49, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Czechoslovak Figure Skating Championships
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: This category contains only one article. Bgsu98 (Talk) 04:32, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Support in principle, this is not helpful for navigation, but merge to Category:Figure skating national championships, Category:Figure skating in Czechoslovakia and Category:National championships in Czechoslovakia. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:16, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Comment I think this is different from the other ones as I disagree both materially and procedurally with the outcome at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/1972 Czechoslovak Figure Skating Championships. Czechoslovakia had a strong tradition in the sport, with several Olympic medallists and national champions regularly featuring at World and European championship level. The national competition was relevant at national level, with regular annual coverage. The discussion claims the articles were not sourced which is not true – a source was clearly presented and online links to the same source are easily identifiable on the Czech interwikis (e.g.). I think it is better to reopen the original deletion discussion because it does not seem to have had sufficient input. SFB 10:48, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Spanish Figure Skating Championships
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: This category contains only one article. Bgsu98 (Talk) 04:32, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Support in principle, this is not helpful for navigation, but merge to Category:National championships in Spain. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:17, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Support I have added the missing category per above SFB 10:50, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Puerto Rican Figure Skating Championships
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: This category contains only one article. Bgsu98 (Talk) 04:32, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete, this is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:18, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete no use SFB 10:58, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Israeli Figure Skating Championships
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: This category contains only one article. Bgsu98 (Talk) 04:31, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete, this is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:20, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete no use SFB 10:58, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Romanian Figure Skating Championships
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: This category contains only one article. Bgsu98 (Talk) 04:31, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete, this is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:21, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete no use SFB 10:58, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Mexican Figure Skating Championships
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: This category contains only one article. Bgsu98 (Talk) 04:30, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete, this is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:23, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete, note this category formerly had contents which were merged to the main page as not meeting general notability. Category really should have been deleted procedurally as part of that nomination as the category became irrelevant following this change - Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2002 Mexican Figure Skating Championships. SFB 10:27, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Finnish Figure Skating Championships
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: This category contains only one article. Bgsu98 (Talk) 04:30, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Support in principle, this is not helpful for navigation, but merge to Category:National championships in Finland. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:23, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:America's Classics winners that have closed
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Per Category:Defunct restaurants and subcategories. --Another Believer (Talk) 03:30, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'm totally fine with that. Jjazz76 (talk) 03:33, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks! Then hoping for a speedy rename here. ---Another Believer (Talk) 03:40, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'm totally fine with that. Jjazz76 (talk) 03:33, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to Category:America's Classics winners, trivial intersection. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:07, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- Disagree. Many restaurant categories have subcategories for defunct establishments. ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:30, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- This is why I originally created the defunct category. Having a list of restaurants and not knowing which exist and which are lost to history is pretty cumbersome/borderline useless for an encyclopedia. This also seems pretty common practice in the restaurant space on Wikipedia. Jjazz76 (talk) 17:21, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- There isn't any issue with categories for defunct restaurants. It is the intersection that is trivial, not the defunctness itself. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:50, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle You'll have to explain what that means. I don't understand what it means when you say that "the intersection is trivial." Jjazz76 (talk) 03:22, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- The fact that they won the America's Classics and the fact that they are defunct are two completely unrelated facts. It is fine though to have the articles in the Category:America's Classics winners, and it is also fine to have the articles in the tree of Category:Defunct restaurants, preferably by year of disestablishment. The year of disestablishment is related to the fact that it is defunct. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:00, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- "two completely unrelated facts" - I'd disagree that they are completely unrelated. Restaurants, particularly award winning ones conjure up a sense of places one would like to visit. Which can't happen if they are defunct. Note there are also categories for "Defunct Michelin Guide Bib Gourmand restaurants" and "Defunct Michelin-starred restaurants" which itself has 15 subcategories. Jjazz76 (talk) 17:42, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- Those should be merged too. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:56, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle feel free to propose it and let's see how the discussion goes. To me, such would seem completely counterproductive and borderline not here to build an encyclopedia. Jjazz76 (talk) 18:23, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Those should be merged too. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:56, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- "two completely unrelated facts" - I'd disagree that they are completely unrelated. Restaurants, particularly award winning ones conjure up a sense of places one would like to visit. Which can't happen if they are defunct. Note there are also categories for "Defunct Michelin Guide Bib Gourmand restaurants" and "Defunct Michelin-starred restaurants" which itself has 15 subcategories. Jjazz76 (talk) 17:42, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- The fact that they won the America's Classics and the fact that they are defunct are two completely unrelated facts. It is fine though to have the articles in the Category:America's Classics winners, and it is also fine to have the articles in the tree of Category:Defunct restaurants, preferably by year of disestablishment. The year of disestablishment is related to the fact that it is defunct. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:00, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle You'll have to explain what that means. I don't understand what it means when you say that "the intersection is trivial." Jjazz76 (talk) 03:22, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- There isn't any issue with categories for defunct restaurants. It is the intersection that is trivial, not the defunctness itself. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:50, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- This is why I originally created the defunct category. Having a list of restaurants and not knowing which exist and which are lost to history is pretty cumbersome/borderline useless for an encyclopedia. This also seems pretty common practice in the restaurant space on Wikipedia. Jjazz76 (talk) 17:21, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Disagree. Many restaurant categories have subcategories for defunct establishments. ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:30, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Merge? I am not seeing objection to renaming if kept.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 04:25, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:House Committees of the National Assembly"
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Request to remove quotation marks from category name GoingBatty (talk) 04:01, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Merge to Category:Government of Nigeria, only two articles in the category is not helpful for navigation. If kept, a disambiguator is needed, Category:House committees of the National Assembly (Nigeria), also per article title National Assembly (Nigeria). Marcocapelle (talk) 07:30, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Support for rename to have a disambiguator Category:House committees of the National Assembly (Nigeria) since it is based on National Assembly (Nigeria). --Vanderwaalforces (talk) 08:04, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:South African Figure Skating Championships templates
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: This category contains only one template. Bgsu98 (Talk) 03:20, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Support in principle, this is not helpful for navigation, but merge to Category:South African Figure Skating Championships. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:36, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Nordic Figure Skating Championships templates
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: This category contains only one template. Bgsu98 (Talk) 03:20, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Support in principle, this is not helpful for navigation, but merge to Category:Nordic Figure Skating Championships. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:37, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:New Zealand Figure Skating Championships templates
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: This category contains only one template. Bgsu98 (Talk) 03:20, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Support in principle, this is not helpful for navigation, but merge to Category:New Zealand Figure Skating Championships. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:37, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Nebelhorn Trophy templates
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: This category contains only one template. Bgsu98 (Talk) 03:19, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Support in principle, this is not helpful for navigation, but merge to Category:Nebelhorn Trophy. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:38, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Bgsu98: could you please add merge targets to the nominations below? Marcocapelle (talk) 08:24, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Latvian Figure Skating Championships templates
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: This category contains only one template. Bgsu98 (Talk) 03:19, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Karl Schäfer Memorial templates
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: This category contains only one template. Bgsu98 (Talk) 03:19, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Golden Spin of Zagreb templates
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: This category contains only one template. Bgsu98 (Talk) 03:18, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Finlandia Trophy templates
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: This category contains only one template. Bgsu98 (Talk) 03:18, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Figure skating at the European Youth Olympic Festival templates
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: This category contains only one template. Bgsu98 (Talk) 03:17, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Danish Figure Skating Championships templates
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: This category contains only one template. Bgsu98 (Talk) 03:16, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Belgian Figure Skating Championships templates
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: This category contains only one template. Bgsu98 (Talk) 03:16, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Australian Figure Skating Championships templates
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: This category contains only one template. Bgsu98 (Talk) 03:15, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Vanderpuije family of Ghana
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:Vanderpuije family of Ghana to Category:Vanderpuije family
- Nominator's rationale: All articles of people with this surname are in this family category, so it doesn't need the country disambiguator. Mike Selinker (talk) 00:40, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:1889 in Argentine sport
[edit]- Propose merging Category:1889 in Argentine sport to Category:1889 in Argentina
- Nominator's rationale: underpopulated isolated category, with several red links when the template is used. I urge the category creator to actually see if there's a need for categories like this before they create them SMasonGarrison 00:01, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose It follows other listings for Category:1889 in sports by country, the category is populated, and the category follows others. The redlinks in the template can be purged, but no need to throw out the category alltogether. Nayyn (talk) 01:33, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose what does it mean exactly underpopulated? Now it includes three pages and it's about football in 1889, for now there are less information than in Category:1989 in Argentine sport but in the future it can grow. MrKeefeJohn (talk) 09:48, 7 January 2025 (UTC)